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 Talk with Mark! / new members on the blockPlease introduce yourself here, a few sentences concerning the word "English". | | | | | rjirmann | 05.02.09, 14:21, Beiträge: 56 | |  |  |  | Dear Lena,
yes, he speaks perfectly and fluently English. He is also versed in French.:-))
But I must admit that my obstacle is speaking. English I mean.
But I am working on it.
And as for spices I need to look them up.
Except rosemary.:-))
I have a rosemary bush in my garden and this song always in my heart.
http://www.youtube.com
Renate
| | Lena | 30.01.09, 20:25, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi Renate,
you made my mouth water!
And I envy you having an English-speaking friend to go out to first class restaurants...;-)
Well, in case I'm hungry I also don't tend to intellectual conversation, but I tug in (is it right for "reinhauen"?) And I was taught: Don't speak with a full mouth!
But I'm gonna listen more accurately to conversations during a dinner! By the way, I realised, that I don't know much about spices, just pepper and salt. What exactly is "allspice"?
Perhaps we can collect a bit of vocabulary. What spices do you know?
I found:
coriander = Koriander
marjoram = Majoran
Provencal herbs = Kräuter der Provence ...to be continued
Spicy, hot greetings
Lena
| | rjirmann | 30.01.09, 19:13, Beiträge: 56 | | | | | Dear Lena,
two weeks ago I was out with my friend. We had a delicious and uncomparable dinner and I must say, our conversation during dinner was more like this:
Ahhhh...
Ohhh..
Look at this... what does it taste like?
Wonderful...
Ahhh...
What are the spices in this red cabbage? Allspice?
It's simply gorgeous...
Look at this artistic composition..
Have you ever eaten something like this..?
Ahhh...
Unforgettable...
etc...:-)))))
Well, it was a seven or eight course meal in a first class restaurant.
The conversation was mainly about the appreciation of the performance of that outstanding cook.
Well, not very intellectual, our talk. But a really profound conversation was not possible because then we were not able to savour all those delicacies.
Now I am going to prepare the dinner.
Bon appétit
Renate
| | Lena | 23.01.09, 22:07, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Dear Mark,
oh yes, I agree with you from the bottom of my heart. I remember all my English textbooks with horror...
As for soups here's a slightly different conversation taken from a movie. Three admin girls are on their lunchbreak sitting more or less bored in the cantine. And it goes like this:
1. Girl: What you’ve got there?
2. Girl: Soup.
1. Girl: What kind?
2. Girl: Minestrone flavour.
1. Girl: Minestrone’s not a flavour.
2. Girl: It is.
1. Girl: No. A flavour’s like strawberry, or salt and vinegar, or sour cream and chive.
3. Girl: Vanilla.
1. Girl: Yeah, vanilla. Or lemon.
3. Girl: Pistachio.
1. Girl: We could say, « What flavour’s minestrone? Is it tomatoey or garlicky?”
3. Girl: Or oniony.
2. Girl: It’s minestrone-y.
1. Girl: No, it fucking isn’t !
2. Girl: Please don’t swear. You haven’t tried it.
1. Girl: I don’t care. There’s no such thing.
2. Girl: It’s MY soup.
1. Girl: It’s NOT A BLOODY FLAVOUR, all right?
2. Girl: Hmmm. Minestrone-y.
1. Girl takes suddenly the bottle with ketchup and pours it into the styrofoam soup cup of her colleague and says: Tomatoey.
Enjoy your soup
Lena
| | Mark | 21.01.09, 14:30, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | You`re right, dear Lena.
Apart from this - English teachers in Germany make a lot of mistakes too.
They teach many unnecessary things because the books are bad, dull, written by people who have no real notion of what the language is about.
I remember - I gave a book to one of my students years ago. It was one of those lessons twenty three - Eating out.
She: I`ll have a tomato soup. And you?
He: I`m having a chicken leg.
She: What was your chicken leg like?
He: Oh, thank you. It was delicious.
My student asked me: "Hey, boy, do you really speak like that bullshit while eating out?"
No one on this planet speaks like this crap - I`m telling you".
And from this moment on, I decided to talk to people the way I`d talk if I were with my English friends.
Apart from this - nobody eats any chicken leg and nobody would order any shitty tomato soup, either.
Do you agree?
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Original geschrieben von Lena
Hi Mark,
you're so right. I must admit, once I also was a begger for corrections, but in the meantime I appreciate and focus more on listening to correct English in form of real English material. That's why I'm enjoying more and more watching DVDs.
And guess what? My speaking abilities improved a lot!!
Good night
Lena
| | Ute_bc887 | 21.01.09, 11:34, Beiträge: 1 | | | | | Zitat:
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Dear Renate,
as a nightowl - I'm not referring to my looks, of course;-) - I'm just dropping in on my way to bed - good to see some news from you!
I bet you'll be thrilled! Let me know, if I'm right.
So have fun and if there are hilarious phrases, which I expect to be - let us know a few of them!
Good night
Lena
| | Lena | 21.01.09, 01:24, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Dear Renate,
as a nightowl - I'm not referring to my looks, of course;-) - I'm just dropping in on my way to bed - good to see some news from you!
I bet you'll be thrilled! Let me know, if I'm right.
So have fun and if there are hilarious phrases, which I expect to be - let us know a few of them!
Good night
Lena
| | rjirmann | 20.01.09, 22:07, Beiträge: 56 | | | | | Dear Lena,
yesterday a friend brought me two films from London, only in English, so that I can improve my English.:-))
I've got "Sex and the City" (the movie) and "Ghost".
Let's see whether it works.:-)))
If they speak too fast the subtitles will save me. But they are also only in English :-))
I wish you an entertaining evening.
Renate
| | Lena | 20.01.09, 00:34, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi Mark,
you're so right. I must admit, once I also was a begger for corrections, but in the meantime I appreciate and focus more on listening to correct English in form of real English material. That's why I'm enjoying more and more watching DVDs.
And guess what? My speaking abilities improved a lot!!
Good night
Lena
| | Mark | 19.01.09, 22:57, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | Not only this! You make people nervous and discourage them from speaking.
Just one example:
What is better and more effective in life?
Imagine - you would like to go to London by train and you`re standing on the platform and a handsome ticket collector appears in front of you and - you only have one minute to ask before the train leaves.
What is better now? To ask - "Excuse, to London?" Or - "Excuse me, the train go to London?". Let`s say: "Go the train to London?".
Or would you like to repeat the entire grammar book now?
The third person requires DOES in questions. The train is -
DOES. So I`ll have to ask: Not "do the train, but does the train.." Go or goes? I think go and not goes. Once again:
Excuse me,......
And you know what will happen?
You will never get that train. It took you three minutes to think!
In my opinion it is much better to make mistakes and to say what you really think. Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Lena
Hi everybody,
today I got a newsletter about error corrections - yes or no! I thought it might be an interesting issue, so I'd like to quote a few passages:
Quote:
"Error correction is a controversial topic. A lot of people have strong emotions about it.
Most English teachers believe that error correction is necessary. In fact, they think it's vital. Many students, who have been trained by their schools and teachers, also believe that they need to have their speaking errors constantly corrected.
My students, therefore, are a little confused when I tell them, "I will never correct your spoken errors".Some people get upset when I say this. Other English teachers get upset. They feel I am committing a sin - that I am committing English education heresy!
Some students even get upset. They beg me, "Please correct my speaking errors". I always say "no". Of course, traditional English classes love error correction. When a student speaks, the teacher will directly or indirectly focus on their mistakes. For example, a student stands up in class. She says, "Yesterday I had good time. I go to store and go shopping".
At this moment, the student feels nervous because all of the class, and the teacher, are listening to her. But she also feels happy - she just spoke English. She just communicated information clearly in English.
But her happiness is soon destroyed by the teacher. If the teacher is nice, he will say, "OK. Yesterday you had A good time. You WENT to THE store and WENT shopping." If the teacher isn't nice, he will say, "No. You need to say A good time... and you didn't use the past tense. You're talking about yesterday. What is the past tense of go"?
Either way, the student now feels foolish and stupid. She now thinks, "English is so difficult,... I'll never be good at English". Her motivation is destroyed. But it's even worse. Because error correction is TOTALLY ineffective. There have been many, many studies of spoken error correction. For example, they divide students into two groups. Group 1 has their mistakes corrected constantly, for 3 months, or 6 months, or 1 year. Group 2 never has their speaking errors corrected. At the end of several months or years, they test each group. Surprisingly, there is still absolutely no difference in their speaking accuracy or errors. Each group still makes the same number and type of mistakes.
Correcting speaking errors is a waste of time... and it hurts the student....End of quote
___________________________________________
So, how do you feel about error corrections?
Best wishes
Lena
| | Lena | 19.01.09, 22:15, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi everybody,
today I got a newsletter about error corrections - yes or no! I thought it might be an interesting issue, so I'd like to quote a few passages:
Quote:
"Error correction is a controversial topic. A lot of people have strong emotions about it.
Most English teachers believe that error correction is necessary. In fact, they think it's vital. Many students, who have been trained by their schools and teachers, also believe that they need to have their speaking errors constantly corrected.
My students, therefore, are a little confused when I tell them, "I will never correct your spoken errors".Some people get upset when I say this. Other English teachers get upset. They feel I am committing a sin - that I am committing English education heresy!
Some students even get upset. They beg me, "Please correct my speaking errors". I always say "no". Of course, traditional English classes love error correction. When a student speaks, the teacher will directly or indirectly focus on their mistakes. For example, a student stands up in class. She says, "Yesterday I had good time. I go to store and go shopping".
At this moment, the student feels nervous because all of the class, and the teacher, are listening to her. But she also feels happy - she just spoke English. She just communicated information clearly in English.
But her happiness is soon destroyed by the teacher. If the teacher is nice, he will say, "OK. Yesterday you had A good time. You WENT to THE store and WENT shopping." If the teacher isn't nice, he will say, "No. You need to say A good time... and you didn't use the past tense. You're talking about yesterday. What is the past tense of go"?
Either way, the student now feels foolish and stupid. She now thinks, "English is so difficult,... I'll never be good at English". Her motivation is destroyed. But it's even worse. Because error correction is TOTALLY ineffective. There have been many, many studies of spoken error correction. For example, they divide students into two groups. Group 1 has their mistakes corrected constantly, for 3 months, or 6 months, or 1 year. Group 2 never has their speaking errors corrected. At the end of several months or years, they test each group. Surprisingly, there is still absolutely no difference in their speaking accuracy or errors. Each group still makes the same number and type of mistakes.
Correcting speaking errors is a waste of time... and it hurts the student....End of quote
___________________________________________
So, how do you feel about error corrections?
Best wishes
Lena
| | Lena | 14.01.09, 15:53, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Dear Mark,
well, that was interesting. Thanks!
I wondered why James Carmichael didn't add the words "...in superabundance to crown it all." ;-)))
As for my PS: I found these words in Episode I of "Green Wing" a series which I hereby highly recommend to all desiring to laugh their head off non-stop! I can't refer to this hilarious little scene because I don't want to give away the punchline.
I immediately ordered season II drooling for more…;-D))
Take care
Lena
| | Mark | 13.01.09, 11:38, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | Dear Lena,
read this please.
[Wifie is the commonest diminutive form of wife but we also find wifock and, as Jack Webster assures us in Another Grain of Truth (1989), “Buchan folk possess an absolute genius for diminutives, managing to turn semantics into gymnastics with examples such as ‘Little wee bit wifikie’”.
In Scots a wife, or wifie, can denote a married woman but also retains the earlier sense of ‘a female person’ that ‘wif’ had in Old English, as this exchange in John Buchan’s Free Fishers (1934) shows: “He is tied to the petticoat tails of a daft wife.” “A wife! He is married then?” “No, no. There’s no marriage. I used our vernacular term for the other sex when we would speak of it without respect.” It is not an easy word to pin down, however. In The Gude and Godlie Ballatis (1567) we read of “Heliogabalus, Quhais (whose) lyfe in lust was spent ... Defyling maide and wyfe” which could suggest either a mature or experienced woman. Certainly modern usage often applies to middle-aged or older women and sometimes carries a slightly disparaging tone but “wee wifie” can be a term of endearment for a little girl. An “auld wifie” or a “sweetie wifie” can be a gossipy person of either gender. A strange, if rare, sense relates to a piece of wick falling of a candle – an omen of a forthcoming marriage. If you know this sense or if you have heard wife or wifie used to refer to an edible crab, we would be very pleased to hear from you.
One thing is certain - all the present editors of Scottish Language Dictionaries are female, bearing out the saw recorded by James Carmichael before his death in 1628 in his Collection of Proverbs: “Quhair there is wyves, there are there words”.
quote]Original geschrieben von Lena
Zitat:
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you`re right. It is a wifie, really. But you have to be careful how to spell it - then WIFI is another word for a blow job in slang:-)))
Dear Mark,
thank you for getting this straight. Imagine a man would've asked me for this, meaning that, I happily agreed to this and got that.....! Most embarrassing on top with the result of men moaning women won't ever get it. ;-)))
As for spelling according to my dic it's written "my wifey".
Have a wonderful evening
Lena
PS.: Surely you know what "man's milk" is?
| | Lena | 12.01.09, 18:30, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi kissedlove,
yes, I do experience the same phenomenon as you. I think, it's because the older we get, the more possible consequences we are able to imagine. We weigh them a bit longer, because time is precious and we don't want to waste time and/or energy. It always depends on a case-by-case basis what to choose best for the time being. So sometimes waiting can be wise, no wasting of time and in another case, yes, it might be...
So happy, who has a good friend, able to listen without being judgemental, just listening while you clarify some thoughts whilst telling them aloud...
I wish you having always such a friend.
Lena
| | Lena | 12.01.09, 18:19, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hello Renate,
thanks for your decision to write me and your warm words. :)
Oh, yes, decision making is a lifelong lesson and lecture. We never ever finish our training. A benefital decision might get the opposite some day and vice versa. You always know in the end or not... Yes, how many decisions of ours do we possibly regret? Which one(s) were a decision of a lifetime? If we decide for this, often we can't have that. How often do we have a wish, a goal only to get us motivated? How often do we trick us with decisions which are none? Even a non-decision is a decision... Well, if decision making was a diamond, it would never end sparkling new perspektives no matter how we turn and rotate it for reflections. Fortunate, who knows his motives...also a lifelong process to get to know oneself, but everyone is allowed to also ignore himself... well, always two sides to the medal...;-) Interesting, huh? We could spent nights discussing this...
And you're right, a lot of decisions are done unconsciously. I.e. thank God, I don't have to regulate all my inner body management and my hormon and chemical cocktails! I would never come to work on time ;-D
So, best decisions for today
Lena
| | Lena | 12.01.09, 17:49, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Mark
you`re right. It is a wifie, really. But you have to be careful how to spell it - then WIFI is another word for a blow job in slang:-)))
Dear Mark,
thank you for getting this straight. Imagine a man would've asked me for this, meaning that, I happily agreed to this and got that.....! Most embarrassing on top with the result of men moaning women won't ever get it. ;-)))
As for spelling according to my dic it's written "my wifey".
Have a wonderful evening
Lena
PS.: Surely you know what "man's milk" is?
| | kissedlove | 11.01.09, 13:55, Beiträge: 20 | | | | | Hi Lena,
you are really nice, thank you.
I often have the impression, as older I become, decisions gaining importance and sometimes I catch myself by getting slow in making the decision.
Have a great week!
| | rjirmann | 09.01.09, 21:58, Beiträge: 56 | | | | | >Choosing", I think, is our most important task in life, >rewarding, if done in a constructive and wise way.
Dear Lena,
I am glad you have chosen this forum.:-))
And you are right, we are always forced to choose: What to do, what to say, what to buy, what to think, how to behave, whom to love...
Creating our life means to make decisions.
But the most decisions we do unconsciously. Unfortunately. Or not.:-))
It's difficult to find out our motives for our decisions.
This evening I decided to watch a cookery show on TV and to write to you in the meantime.
More than two years ago I decided to brush my English up and I can tell you, since then my life has changed dramatically! Nearly nothing is the same. And it was my best decision ever.
So be careful:-))
And have a nice evening.
Renate
| | rjirmann | 09.01.09, 21:29, Beiträge: 56 | | | | | you`re right. It is a wifie, really. But you have to be careful how to spell it - then WIFI is another word for a blow job in slang:-)))
Dear Mark,
WIFI, where does it come from? Has it to do with "high-frequency"? Or the "local area (net) work"???
But I wonder about wireless.:-)))
| | Mark | 08.01.09, 22:32, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Lena
Hi kissedlove,
being educated with praise and humour, that should be fine. And you are right, people tend to see the negatives about a person first. I wasn't raised with humour, so I got a real interest in books on communication. It's a wide and interesting field - and I, too, have chosen between all the offered knowledge and new ideas what benefit me most."Choosing", I think, is our most important task in life, rewarding, if done in a constructive and wise way.
I appreciate that you took some time to drop a few lines ;-D
By the way, I understand, that "hubbie" is the endearing shortform for "husband". How is the other half called?
"wifie"? I hope, not... any ideas?
Bye, bye
Lena
Yes, dear Lena,
you`re right. It is a wifie, really. But you have to be careful how to spell it - then WIFI is another word for a blow job in slang:-)))
| | Lena | 08.01.09, 20:13, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi kissedlove,
being educated with praise and humour, that should be fine. And you are right, people tend to see the negatives about a person first. I wasn't raised with humour, so I got a real interest in books on communication. It's a wide and interesting field - and I, too, have chosen between all the offered knowledge and new ideas what benefit me most."Choosing", I think, is our most important task in life, rewarding, if done in a constructive and wise way.
I appreciate that you took some time to drop a few lines ;-D
By the way, I understand, that "hubbie" is the endearing shortform for "husband". How is the other half called?
"wifie"? I hope, not... any ideas?
Bye, bye
Lena
| | kissedlove | 04.01.09, 20:01, Beiträge: 20 | | | | | hi Lena, Mark,
Well guess I "hit the nerve"! Yes you right it's the book from Dale Carnegie, I didn't finish yet, so I cannot say anything about the part "influence them" yet.
But Mark, I don't think it means to tell your friend how to organize his life and addtional you need to choose carefully what you believe in and what is just nonsense.
What I like, is the part that you always intend to critize people more often, than praise them. And life can be much easier if you educate with praise and humor ... Dealing with people can be quiet exhausting, what is wrong about let people feel important. Sometimes it is not easy to discuss issues or just bring up some new ideas. In this case I think to take the benefit out of this knowledge isn't bad. I just look for a pleasureable way of life.
Lena, I will check out the other books, thanks for mention them.
Bye
Letzte Änderung: 04.01.09, 20:06 | | Lena | 04.01.09, 18:18, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi kissedlove,
is it a book by Dale Carnegie, perhaps?
If so, yes, I have heard about it. A friend once took me to an introductory free evening, but personally I don't quite like this approach of "influencing" people. There might be some points, well...
I prefer books around the 'Havard Concept".
Titles like:
Getting together - Building Relationships as we negotiate
Difficult Conversations - How to discuss what matters most
Getting to Yes - negotioating an agreement without giving in
Most of these titles are translated into German.I gained some insights and they are easy to read.
Well, Mark, I think it is very difficult to tell a friend to
dump someone. Mostly we come from our own biography and it is
really an art to listen well to the reasons of the other person choosing or staying with someone, we might think is inappropriate. It might be clear and easy to say to a woman for example, who is beaten up by her husband or boyfriend, "Dump that jerk!". I also would recomment, of course. But often there are lacking self-confidence or other issues at the bottom, that make it difficult to understand why a person puts up with certain behaviors. Deeper support would be nesseccary.I think each case has to be seen for itself.(Einzelfallentscheidung)
By the way, kissedlove, I looked up "Klassiker" and found:
a classic - Klassiker
classical author - klassischer Author (z.B. auch: classic example - klassisches Beispiel, classical period - klassisches Zeitalter etc.)
classics (pl.)- Klassiker
So I think, you could say: a classic by xyz. Do you agree with me, dear Mark?
Keep dropping a line!
Lena
| | Mark | 04.01.09, 16:20, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | This book about friends and influencing them seems to be quite enticing:-))
How can you influence a friend?
You mean - tell him that the boyfriend he or she is just dating is not the right one?
He should ditch - fallen lassen - the girl?
Is it like this?
All the best!
Well, I hope you`ll find some time to drop a line here anyway. It only takes some minutes:-)))
Mark
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Hi, welcome in year 2009,
well, not in my case Lena. I am pretty good in understanding even asian people. We have lots of DVD's from USA, series and my holidays I spent the evening with "brothers and sisters". Now I have to wait for season II. I have writing troubles and I absolutly hope to get better in texting or formulating in an appropriate way. You use a lot words I have never heard of or read. wow....Additional I started reading two books, one is just a nice get away and the other is an classic book (can I say this?) "How to find friends and influence them", do you know it? It is interesting and I can learn a lot.
Next week starts work again, means less time for being here.  Have a great week everybody!
| | kissedlove | 04.01.09, 13:06, Beiträge: 20 | | | | | Hi, welcome in year 2009,
well, not in my case Lena. I am pretty good in understanding even asian people. We have lots of DVD's from USA, series and my holidays I spent the evening with "brothers and sisters". Now I have to wait for season II. I have writing troubles and I absolutly hope to get better in texting or formulating in an appropriate way. You use a lot words I have never heard of or read. wow....Additional I started reading two books, one is just a nice get away and the other is an classic book (can I say this?) "How to find friends and influence them", do you know it? It is interesting and I can learn a lot.
Next week starts work again, means less time for being here. Have a great week everybody!
| | Lena | 01.01.09, 19:54, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi Mark, Hi kissedlove,
hopefully you arrived well and unharmed 2009!
Did anybody bother with New Years resolutions? For the first time I did not, because spring in the latest I got stuck or elsewhere with. Now I'm gonna see if I can manage without resolutions ;-D
@kissedlove
As for the smilie you used I see that you're constantly putting new words into your head. ;-D Well, I'm also far from being fluent or perfect. Mostly we learn English with text- and grammerbooks. So we learn English by SEEING it, less by HEARING it. So for me reading wasn't the best method.
Perhaps you all know the situation: you understand English quite well whilst reading, then you go to the cinema and frustratingly you don't understand a word of spoken language in the film. Aaarrgh!
So far for today.
Enjoy!
Lena
| | kissedlove | 31.12.08, 16:08, Beiträge: 20 | | | | | Hi, 
I don't think you can say lazyness, its't just difficult if you are not fluently in the second language. It needs more thinking what to write. I always need to encourage myself to write, for me it's much easier to talk. So be patient, next year will be much better. ;-))
Have a great new year everybody!
| | Mark | 31.12.08, 10:16, Beiträge: 107 | | | | | Dear Lena,
thank you for the wishes!
Yes, not only eery - but maybe they`re all a bit lazy here.
Let`s hope for some more postings next year.
All the best!
Happy New Year!
Mark
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Lena
Hi dear English friends,
I wish you all a happy and healthy New Year!
Hopefully there gonna be more postings here in the forum. Sometimes I found it a bit eery that no one seemed to be around. But after all the "festivities" I hope to get to know some other language enthusiasts.
Best wishes for 2009 for all of you.
Lena
| | Lena | 31.12.08, 01:08, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi dear English friends,
I wish you all a happy and healthy New Year!
Hopefully there gonna be more postings here in the forum. Sometimes I found it a bit eery that no one seemed to be around. But after all the "festivities" I hope to get to know some other language enthusiasts.
Best wishes for 2009 for all of you.
Lena
| | Lena | 27.12.08, 01:05, Beiträge: 25 | | | | | Hi @all,
as newbie I don't know yet where to put my question.
I came across a line from a movie. One of the film characters, a woman tells her co-worker about her vacation: "I slept in, did my yoga, I read a couple of books...and I flirted with my scuba instructor."
Question: When do you use "instructor", "teacher" or "trainer"?
I'm looking forward to an answer.
Lena
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